Do trackbacks mixed with comments annoy blog readers?

Separating conversation

Over on Devlounge there is an excellent list of 15 design decisions that annoy readers. The article is written by Ronald Huereca and is based on informal feedback received at his personal blog the Reader Appreciation Project.

The 15 annoyances are:

  • Pop-ups (link hovers)
  • Turning off the timestamp on posts
  • Pop-up windows
  • Snap preview pop-ups
  • Positioning the subscribe box above the search box
  • Dark backgrounds
  • Auto play music
  • Not separating trackbacks from comments
  • Talking advertisements
  • Obtrusive subscription requests
  • Hard to find subscription options
  • Failure to interlink posts or show related posts
  • Obtrusive advertisements
  • In-text advertisements
  • Small font size

I agree with pretty much every single point that Ronald makes, but the one that caught my eye is the issue of separating trackbacks from comments. Ronald’s argument is that they don’t form part of the conversation:

“To a regular commenter and/or reader of the post, the trackback is not really part of the conversation. To me, a trackback interspersed with regular comments is more of an interruption than a continuation of discussion.”

It’s certainly not the most annoying annoyance on the list, but I think Ronald has a point. And it’s actually quite common: by default WordPress displays all comments and trackbacks in chronological order, and most bloggers don’t do anything to change it.

There are a couple of ways of changing this default behaviour. If you fancy hand-editing your comment.php template file, a fairly simple technique is demonstrated on Noscope. If you’re not the coding type then the Separating Comments & Pings plugin may be for you.

Another site-tweak is added it my ‘to-do’ list…

Many thanks for the recent comments: Asgeir, 1ndigo, Johno and Mac.

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7 fantastic comments

I never thought of it like that, but it makes sense. I actually had to check what my own theme does. ^^ Another one I personally would add to the list, is themes that show the most recent post in its own frame or with its own kind of layout. Do you know what I mean?

Aaron,

Thanks for continuing the conversation. Separating trackbacks from comments is truly an individual blogger’s choice, especially on how many trackbacks/comments a blogger gets.

To be honest I had never thought of the mixed comments trackbacks but you have a point. It never bothers me that much but I can see how it can be distracting from a conversation

I’d thought about doing this a few months back, but didn’t know how, so thanks for pointing me in the right direction Aaron.

In saying that, ever since my design change, all the track backs that I know I’m getting aren’t showing up under most of my blog posts. I don’t know why this is, but it’d be nice for the readers to see so they can continue discussion and find out about related blogs.

actually, trackbacks on my blog have stopped showing up under posts as well. I’m not sure why - I didn’t re-design the theme. I did alter the code to show the trackbacks after the comments (thanks to Ronald), but it shouldn’t cause any problems because I tested the code and it works on older posts with trackbacks.

Great post. Yes I have been getting a nagging feeling especially when my track backs come from my own posts. I was tempted to actually delete the trackback. But it is important as it tells my readers of related posts. So I left it for the time being.

But any ways thanks for the links to the plug-in and hard coding it. I’ll jump on the plugin first before trying my hand coding it. My CSS suck.

Thanks for all the comments everyone. Apologies for not responding personally to each comment - if you read my last post you will know why ;)

DT - you should check out the No Self Pings plugin - I think that should do exactly what you want it to :)

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