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		<title>By: LaurenMarie</title>
		<link>http://www.milienzo.com/2007/06/14/reflections-on-a-design-students-end-of-year-show/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, though not a student anymore, I am learning this, too. I wish that our world didn&#039;t harp on ethnicity so much though. But yes, I know it does and that&#039;s just life. I had to be very aware of that when doing the annual report for my company. But it&#039;s still easy to forget. To me, a good picture is a good picture! I don&#039;t care what race or gender or color of skin the people have in it! If they are smiling and happy, that&#039;s the message that should be conveyed.

Oh yes, I saw Paul&#039;s post. Hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, though not a student anymore, I am learning this, too. I wish that our world didn&#8217;t harp on ethnicity so much though. But yes, I know it does and that&#8217;s just life. I had to be very aware of that when doing the annual report for my company. But it&#8217;s still easy to forget. To me, a good picture is a good picture! I don&#8217;t care what race or gender or color of skin the people have in it! If they are smiling and happy, that&#8217;s the message that should be conveyed.</p>
<p>Oh yes, I saw Paul&#8217;s post. Hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lauren - I guess it depends who your clients are. There&#039;s the ones who don&#039;t know much about design - see Paul&#039;s article on 10 stupid client questions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then there&#039;s the corporate world. I work for a government body with a pretty reasonable comms budget. We&#039;re not afraid of being swindled by designers - if they tried it they&#039;d lose a slice of our big fat pie. We have corporate identity guidelines that designers must adhere to, we set the budgets, we set the deadlines. We make annoying requests to designers like adjusting the ethnic balance of people on the front cover, getting all the genders and ages represented, etc. We have corporate risks that designers need to be aware of. This is more what I mean when I say I know what the client expects, and it&#039;s this operational reality that I think a lot of young students can take a while to wrap their heads around.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren &#8211; I guess it depends who your clients are. There&#8217;s the ones who don&#8217;t know much about design &#8211; see Paul&#8217;s article on 10 stupid client questions.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the corporate world. I work for a government body with a pretty reasonable comms budget. We&#8217;re not afraid of being swindled by designers &#8211; if they tried it they&#8217;d lose a slice of our big fat pie. We have corporate identity guidelines that designers must adhere to, we set the budgets, we set the deadlines. We make annoying requests to designers like adjusting the ethnic balance of people on the front cover, getting all the genders and ages represented, etc. We have corporate risks that designers need to be aware of. This is more what I mean when I say I know what the client expects, and it&#8217;s this operational reality that I think a lot of young students can take a while to wrap their heads around.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh hey! That&#039;s awesome that you&#039;ve actually &lt;em&gt;been&lt;/em&gt; the client. I went to a workshop a few months ago about websites for non-profits (I work for one as the web/graphic designer). I was under the impression I would learn about what kinds of things NP&#039;s should put on their sites, what community pages we should list our site on, some SEO, etc.

Instead the workshop was intended for people who knew &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; about websites (indeed, we went over what a URL, host and domain name were!) and how to interact with a designer, what to look for when choosing a designer, etc. While it wasn&#039;t what I thought I would hear, I was very pleased being able to sit in on that workshop and hear about how life was from the client&#039;s POV. It really helped me see how little they know and how scared they are about being swindled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh hey! That&#8217;s awesome that you&#8217;ve actually <em>been</em> the client. I went to a workshop a few months ago about websites for non-profits (I work for one as the web/graphic designer). I was under the impression I would learn about what kinds of things NP&#8217;s should put on their sites, what community pages we should list our site on, some SEO, etc.</p>
<p>Instead the workshop was intended for people who knew <em>nothing</em> about websites (indeed, we went over what a URL, host and domain name were!) and how to interact with a designer, what to look for when choosing a designer, etc. While it wasn&#8217;t what I thought I would hear, I was very pleased being able to sit in on that workshop and hear about how life was from the client&#8217;s POV. It really helped me see how little they know and how scared they are about being swindled.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;David&lt;/strong&gt; - I&#039;m not too down on the event. Actually I think it went pretty well for me - some of the other students didn&#039;t get half the attention I did. It&#039;s just it was all over and done with so quickly it seems quite a hazy experience - considering the two years graft that went in to it.

&lt;strong&gt;Tara&lt;/strong&gt; - You&#039;re right, you never know who you&#039;re chatting to and who they might know. Enjoy your holiday by the way :)

&lt;strong&gt;Lauren&lt;/strong&gt; - Hehe, I&#039;ve been working for eleven years so I know a bit about the &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; world already. But I take your point. In fact that&#039;s my secret weapon. For the past three years I&#039;ve worked with designers in the industry day in day out so I&#039;ve got a good grasp on the industry, the processes involved and indeed what the client expects (I am the client). A lot of the other lads are a bit naive in this respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>David</strong> &#8211; I&#8217;m not too down on the event. Actually I think it went pretty well for me &#8211; some of the other students didn&#8217;t get half the attention I did. It&#8217;s just it was all over and done with so quickly it seems quite a hazy experience &#8211; considering the two years graft that went in to it.</p>
<p><strong>Tara</strong> &#8211; You&#8217;re right, you never know who you&#8217;re chatting to and who they might know. Enjoy your holiday by the way <img src='http://www.milienzo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Lauren</strong> &#8211; Hehe, I&#8217;ve been working for eleven years so I know a bit about the <em>real</em> world already. But I take your point. In fact that&#8217;s my secret weapon. For the past three years I&#8217;ve worked with designers in the industry day in day out so I&#8217;ve got a good grasp on the industry, the processes involved and indeed what the client expects (I am the client). A lot of the other lads are a bit naive in this respect.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, school. You will learn 20 times more your first two months working than you did for that two years. It&#039;s good to get the basics down, but believe me, once you&#039;re in the real world, you will wonder why you ever thought about going back to school for another degree or certificate.

We called our final show Portfolio 12 Review because it was our 12th Quarter of school. We had 3 reviews, 7th Quarter for print work, 10th Quarter for video and 12th Quarter for whatever you wanted to show as your best stuff. I was so nervous going into it. The profs always like to scare you with stories of how you won&#039;t graduate if they don&#039;t like your work. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s happened once in the (short) history of the school. We had a very small class, only about 10-15 people showed work that day. We usually have about 4 professors (out of about 10) come to critique, and some younger students trickle in and out at the urging of their profs. The academic dean showed up (late) at mine.

We took turns showing off our pieces and I was #4 to go. We had been told that they structure the review where the first few to go are almost the best and the last ones are &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; best with all the crummy ones in between; the professors like to leave feeling like they weren&#039;t complete failures! I was one of 3 people asked to reshow my work for the academic dean. He happened to be sitting next to me and when I sat back down after my presentation, he asked for my contact information because he liked an ad I&#039;d done for the school (purely as a project, not real). Never got a call from him. Meh. If I had a dollar for every time &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; happened...

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s the same everywhere, people will be really interested in you and say how much they love your work and that they &quot;have this project...&quot; and you never hear from them again. Look at me! Only 6 months in the real world and I&#039;m already so jaded. Ok, end rant. This is not my blog!

But take heart, young Padawan, your career is just &lt;em&gt;beginning&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, school. You will learn 20 times more your first two months working than you did for that two years. It&#8217;s good to get the basics down, but believe me, once you&#8217;re in the real world, you will wonder why you ever thought about going back to school for another degree or certificate.</p>
<p>We called our final show Portfolio 12 Review because it was our 12th Quarter of school. We had 3 reviews, 7th Quarter for print work, 10th Quarter for video and 12th Quarter for whatever you wanted to show as your best stuff. I was so nervous going into it. The profs always like to scare you with stories of how you won&#8217;t graduate if they don&#8217;t like your work. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s happened once in the (short) history of the school. We had a very small class, only about 10-15 people showed work that day. We usually have about 4 professors (out of about 10) come to critique, and some younger students trickle in and out at the urging of their profs. The academic dean showed up (late) at mine.</p>
<p>We took turns showing off our pieces and I was #4 to go. We had been told that they structure the review where the first few to go are almost the best and the last ones are <em>the</em> best with all the crummy ones in between; the professors like to leave feeling like they weren&#8217;t complete failures! I was one of 3 people asked to reshow my work for the academic dean. He happened to be sitting next to me and when I sat back down after my presentation, he asked for my contact information because he liked an ad I&#8217;d done for the school (purely as a project, not real). Never got a call from him. Meh. If I had a dollar for every time <em>that</em> happened&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s the same everywhere, people will be really interested in you and say how much they love your work and that they &#8220;have this project&#8230;&#8221; and you never hear from them again. Look at me! Only 6 months in the real world and I&#8217;m already so jaded. Ok, end rant. This is not my blog!</p>
<p>But take heart, young Padawan, your career is just <em>beginning</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my show, I think maybe one person got a job from it but that was it. I think you are doing all the right things, those interested &quot;passer bys&quot; all have friends and contacts so you never know. Your online portfolio and  blog should bring you possible work too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my show, I think maybe one person got a job from it but that was it. I think you are doing all the right things, those interested &#8220;passer bys&#8221; all have friends and contacts so you never know. Your online portfolio and  blog should bring you possible work too.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey :: Creative Design ::</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey :: Creative Design ::</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My final show was similar to yours, Aaron.

One person got a scholarship in the States out of it, and as far as I&#039;m aware no-one else had any of the luck you speak of.

Try not to let it get you down though. All the work you&#039;ve put in will continue to pay off now that you have a few web projects and a strong portfolio under your belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My final show was similar to yours, Aaron.</p>
<p>One person got a scholarship in the States out of it, and as far as I&#8217;m aware no-one else had any of the luck you speak of.</p>
<p>Try not to let it get you down though. All the work you&#8217;ve put in will continue to pay off now that you have a few web projects and a strong portfolio under your belt.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I am feeling a bit Boxing Day - minus the bloated on turkey feeling.

Wise words though Paul.

I&#039;ll keep pushing for sure, although now I&#039;ve finished this course I&#039;m not sure where I&#039;m heading. I could study a bit more (although I&#039;m a bit fed up with the lack of free time); I would love to get some studio esperience, although couldnt really afford to go in as a junior (the downside of being an oldie student with a mortgage); or I could try and go freelance - lacking the studio experience scares me a bit, but this is probably the most realistic option.

Hmmm, decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I am feeling a bit Boxing Day &#8211; minus the bloated on turkey feeling.</p>
<p>Wise words though Paul.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep pushing for sure, although now I&#8217;ve finished this course I&#8217;m not sure where I&#8217;m heading. I could study a bit more (although I&#8217;m a bit fed up with the lack of free time); I would love to get some studio esperience, although couldnt really afford to go in as a junior (the downside of being an oldie student with a mortgage); or I could try and go freelance &#8211; lacking the studio experience scares me a bit, but this is probably the most realistic option.</p>
<p>Hmmm, decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Enderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Enderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda like the anti-climax on Boxing Day, innit? Well done for getting through it in one piece...

I&#039;m glad that you communicated, as it&#039;s all too common to see students at these shows cowering in the corner of the room - lacking the confidence that you obviously have.

To be honest, it&#039;s unlikely (though not impossible) that you&#039;ll get a job purely off the back of the show. What you&#039;ve done is started putting your name out there - but you need to keep pushing...

Hand your business card to anyone who speaks to you for longer than 5 minutes. Send your demo CD round to all the agencies who&#039;d you would like to work for. Phone people, and nag people, and push your online portfolio too!

Life&#039;s all about luck at the end of the day. Sometimes you get it, and sometimes you don&#039;t. Simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda like the anti-climax on Boxing Day, innit? Well done for getting through it in one piece&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you communicated, as it&#8217;s all too common to see students at these shows cowering in the corner of the room &#8211; lacking the confidence that you obviously have.</p>
<p>To be honest, it&#8217;s unlikely (though not impossible) that you&#8217;ll get a job purely off the back of the show. What you&#8217;ve done is started putting your name out there &#8211; but you need to keep pushing&#8230;</p>
<p>Hand your business card to anyone who speaks to you for longer than 5 minutes. Send your demo CD round to all the agencies who&#8217;d you would like to work for. Phone people, and nag people, and push your online portfolio too!</p>
<p>Life&#8217;s all about luck at the end of the day. Sometimes you get it, and sometimes you don&#8217;t. Simple!</p>
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